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PostPosted: **02 Nov 2009, 15:38**

Yeah, I need the Hungarian readme and the lines on the first page translated.

TPR 1.58 readme? And the first page? The epilepsy warning? Or the english readme of the patch (soma page, bug list and in the end the creators)? I don't understand, sorry, I don't know we need a new installer, or I have it...

PostPosted: **03 Nov 2009, 23:24**

Translate the following lines:

Code:: Your fisherman cannot catch any further fish.[/quote][code]IMPORTANT NOTICE REGARDING PRE-RELEASE SOFTWARE! You are about to install pre-release software, also known as "beta" software. Whilst software in beta stages of development should generally be quite stable, unexpected bugs will possibly occur. It is therefore recommended that you make a backup of your game to ensure that no unwanted changes will become permanent. Also, in the case that you do happen to come across one or a few bugs that you believe have been caused by the patch, make sure that you report them to the forums at http://www.knightsandmerchants.cjb.net or by sending an e-mail to [snip].[/quote][code]For more information, visit http://www.knightsandmerchants.cjb.net.[/quote][code]The installation wizard has detected that your copy of the game is already up to date.[/quote][code]The installation wizard detected that you either don't have Knights and Merchants: The Peasants Rebellion installed, or it is in a language that is not Hungarian. The installation will be aborted.[/quote] Then I also need to have the 1.60 patch readme translated, which you can download from [url=http://lewin.namsys.com.au/kam/mirror/downloads/TPR/Readme_src/readme_hungarian_source.zip]here[/url].

PostPosted: **06 Nov 2009, 21:36**

Hey I was just interested in hearing a status report. Has anyone been working on translating the Dutch readme? I'd be especially interested in the Dutch one because I feel it might be close to release (Polish has the issue regarding no manual existing, Russian has some issues with both the readme and manual, Hungarian should get translated).

By the way Harold if you're reading this, any progress report on the manual?

PostPosted: **08 Nov 2009, 20:54**

Code:: A horg?sz nem k?pes t?bb halat kifogni.[/quote] [code] FIGYELEM, FONTOS TUDNIVAL?K ERRŐL A NEM HIVATALOS PROGRAMR?L! Ez a program egy nem hivatalos verzi?, egyfajta b?ta-k?nt is felfoghat?. A b?ta ?llapot? programok ?ltal?ban stabilnak mondhat?ak, de tartalmazhatnak hib?kat. Ez?rt mindenk?ppen aj?nlott, hogy a telep?t?s előtt biztons?gi m?solatot k?sz?ts a j?t?k f?jljair?l. Teh?t, ha olyant tapasztalsz, ami szerinted a friss?t?s hib?ja, k?rlek jelentsd a http://www.knightsandmerchants.cjb.net oldal f?rum?n, vagy ?rj egy e-mail-t a [snip] c?mre. [/quote] [code]Tov?bbi inform?ci?k?rt l?togass el a http://www.knightsandmerchants.cjb.net oldalra.[/quote] [code] A telep?tő ?szlelte, hogy ez a friss?t?s m?r telep?tve van.[/quote] [code] A telep?tő ?szlelte, hogy nincs telep?tve a Knights and Merchants: The Peasants Rebellion, vagy pedig nem magyar nyelvű. A telep?t?s sikertelen.[/quote] I send it to e-mail, there ere 2 hungarian spec. char... Ohh and one general info: my name is TGWH, but in the Liesmich_hungarian_final.doc there is: [code]HUNGARIAN: Attila "TWGH" P. [/quote] I think I wrote TWGH in one of the mails, sorry. ___________________________________________ Edit: Gyula help to me in the translation and he check the spelling. We needs only 1 week. After this you can revise the language bugs and we have a finel version :D Litude, please send the files to Gyula (he had such idea that not acs, sondern carpenter as in the first game).

PostPosted: **09 Nov 2009, 08:21**

Code:: Once you have ensured that sufficient hard drive space is available on your system and that you have downloaded the correct language version patch for your game, you will have to double click the file you downloaded (kam_tpr_160_hun.exe) in order to execute it. [/quote] We have'nt any language version patch... or I don't find it on the net... Is this patch somewhere or not?

PostPosted: **09 Nov 2009, 12:35**

Ohh and one general info: my name is TGWH, but in the Liesmich_hungarian_final.doc there is:
Code:
HUNGARIAN: Attila "TWGH" P. [/quote][/quote] Sorry, I will fix it. [quote="TWGH"]We have'nt any language version patch... or I don't find it on the net... Is this patch somewhere or not?[/quote] It isn't ready yet, that readme will be a part of the patch.

PostPosted: **17 Nov 2009, 17:44**

Last week I translated the missing parts of readme to Hungarian. I also read the manual connected to that but found some structural troubles, eg. "required equipment" line was empty everywhere while the missing content could be found in the continuous text. To say it clearly, the manual document I got has no logical arrangement. Such an idiocy, to put a coherent text into table cells... With that format, if the game changes that a line must be added to the manual, the entire document has to be rewritten, not to mention that it can only be copied by single pages. And don't say it's because you need to create PDF, as OpenOffice has a built-in PDF-making tool.
So I reconstructed the whole file (of course corrected spelling and grammatic errors) and made the PDF. So far I haven't given the same layout to this as the original, but I can do this if you want. Only thing I demand is that you do not force Hungarians to have a cocked-up manual just because the English one is like that.

PS.
To readme I gave the same logical formatting as to the manual, and am also ready to give this the same visual formatting as formerly was.

PostPosted: **17 Nov 2009, 22:22**

I don't understand your concern. You seem to imply that the layout is messed up but for me it's fine. If it's something OpenOffice is responsible for I have no intentions of fixing it as the PDF doesn't depend on the DOC formatting anyway.

About this table formatting, how do you think it should be? Could you post a screenshot to clarify?

EDIT: Just checked it under OpenOffice. The layout seems the same to me but I still fail to understand your point. Sure, the table design might not be ideal but it works and serves its purpose quite well. How exactly is this causing a problem? Does anyone else feel that the manual is completely messed up structurally?

PostPosted: **17 Nov 2009, 22:35**

You seem to imply that the layout is messed up

Nope. Problem is that logical formatting is completely missing so I added it to the manual file - I mean heading 1, heading 2, lists etc. I have to admit that after making this long-time editing I didn't reset the layout of the file but I can nearly recover that. In regard to PDF its equal what the framework of the DOC file is, but once we have to modify the manual, it's much easier to do in a structural text. That's all. I'm sending you the DOC file I made in PM in some minutes.

PostPosted: **18 Nov 2009, 14:33**

Gyula, I think that I speek on last week... It's a pdf, Litude look good to solve the problem that he maked. You are too academic. Nobady see the logical bugs, because there pdf has a good logical system. People use table of contents, yes. But he see it, not that how maked Litude this... The pdf is too long? And? I think it is adequatly long, but realy solid.
I think we must find the language bugs. If you make a new pdf, I'll upload it the hungarian webpage if you want. And the 10 hungaraian fan can dowload it...
The first is the patch, and the bugs, not that look it well...

And it is not my big anti-hungarian rebellion...

PostPosted: **18 Nov 2009, 14:56**

For that I'd have to make the corrections again from the beginning. Not only spelling errors has that manual, but wrong-formulated sentences, too. And if a sentence in the old DOC file is drawn badly and the proper one is longer than that, it may get out of the current cell. That's why constraining a text into cells is a nonsense. By the way, Hungarian sentences are basically longer than English ones, probably that's why TGWH couldn't always use the best phrasing. Sorry but if there's no way to discuss it rationally, I must shout F**KING ENGLISH!!! So now let the one make the corrections of the old DOC file who isn't interested in what it's like.

PostPosted: **27 Nov 2009, 15:07**

View the readme -> Zobacz plik Readme

By the way Polish translation of the file is almost done.

PostPosted: **28 Nov 2009, 22:40**

Edit: Gyula help to me in the translation and he check the spelling. We needs only 1 week. After this you can revise the language bugs and we have a finel version
Litude, please send the files to Gyula (he had such idea that not acs, sondern carpenter as in the first game).

What files should I send to Gyula? The game .lib files?

By the way Polish translation of the file is almost done.

Great work!

PostPosted: **29 Nov 2009, 19:21**

What files should I send to Gyula? The game .lib files?

Nothing, we solved that problem. So I have the new lib file, and Gyula write it to good form, I send the 1.60 manual.
You'll give for you 2 hungarian manual and the 2 lib file. We think there are the final version

PostPosted: **02 Jan 2010, 17:17**

Hi, we finished it

It's done

I'll send a mail to Litude.
Thanks once more the patch.

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