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Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 02 Nov 2014, 16:32
by vincentus
I am interested in how people play this map on different locations. So please share your replay if you think you have a good building plan for certain locs, also say how much army you +- produce in 90 PT

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 02 Nov 2014, 16:58
by dicsoupcan
well i once made 175 bowmen in 75 pt so i guess if i kepe doing that i will have like 250~275 or more in 90 pt. it was a torllgame. but basically you could get around 200 quality soldiers.

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 01:43
by Ben
Well for you it is impossible ;)

Don't underestimate how good some players are at this game. You've probably not scratched the surface of veteran players... for example, I've seen 10 knights, 45 bowmen and 20 swordfighters in 60 minutes before (the map is slightly easier than Cursed Ravine though) and that isn't even perfect.

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 01:58
by Benny
Oh,

accidentally I found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0MbbVo ... oPGfqUzbfU

Here "veteran player" discoupan did not produce even 170 in 80 mins :(

I would be interested in replay, have any please :D :D?

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 01:59
by Benny
Ah, hes called discoupcan

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 08:53
by Tiank
In this video he could have 148 bows at 75 PT. 5 minutes later, at the end of PT it's 181 bows with 153 recruits. So as for fun, troll game, it is pretty good I think.
accidentally I found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0MbbVo ... oPGfqUzbfU
This game was probably not played on r5503, which could matter, since many things are changing in gameplay with newer releases. Also, your army production is different, when you're aiming for different PT's.

And he's called D I C S O U P C A N.

EDIT: Here are some replays from me, it was the first time I played this loc (loc 6), it was 90 PT, 2.5x/2x.
I had 133 leather overall, 44 Axe Fighters, 65 Bowmen, 64 Pikemen and 23 Militia. I failed with recruits though, only 100, but after few minutes I was able to train most of available troops.
Cursed Ravine Tiank.7z
I also played it on 1.5x speed, to see how much better I can get, also on 90 PT. I got 128 leather overall (could have more if I had more Armory Workshops...), 59 Axe Fighters, 68 Bowmen, 66 Pikemen and this time, 150 recruits.
Cursed Ravine Tiank 1.5.7z
So, what dicsoupcan wrote about having 200 quality troops is true. It is possible. I think it's even possible to have 100 pikemen and for example 100 bows :D.

And me I'm not veteran, I only play Remake for a year now :).

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 15:02
by dicsoupcan
Tiank, i could not have put it better then you did here. before you make a mockery of someone sir i recommend to watch more vids of someone's youtube channel first. the video is quite old and on 2,5x speed it is just not possible to build at maximum efficiency. i think i can redo that army with better results on 1x speed. as for the video you found, tiank is right. that video was before the shieldpatch happened (r3***) which was a time the rush was just invented in the beta going on at that time. so naturally the formula was not perfected back in those days which means over time the players from back then improved a lot.

Also large armies are useless on cursed ravine because the player who stays in base always has a massive advantage. oftentimes you just win because they lack a lot of fighting skills, even to the point it feels like you fight the ai. i just cannot take the map seriously anymore and started to make trollarmies, which reminds me i should do a troll scout rush again.

also tiank, weapons are more important then gold, gold goes faster so you can always catch up with recruits :3

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 22:31
by DISCOUPCAN FAN
See, you created 75 leathers, 103 wooden units and only 45 recruits in 75 mins in 1.5 speed preview (42 axes, 41 bowman and {41 wooden shields=20 bowman}). To amount of 175 bowmen you are still missing 72 wooden units and 130 recruits.
Simply, your file does not prove you can do 175 bowmen in 75 mins.

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 22:35
by DISCOUPCAN FAN
Ah, 41 wooden shields=20 longbows, not bowman, sorry for that.

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 09 Nov 2014, 23:33
by Ben
Simcity, I thought you knew better by now: there are very good players in the Remake above random level ;)

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 10 Nov 2014, 14:16
by Tiank
Ok, mr "Discoupcan Fan", in my replays I wanted to answer vincentus' question, about how big army a player can produce on some loc during 90 PT.

But since you are so eager about 175 Bowmen on 75 PT, I can try making it, just to see if it's possible :). Keep in mind, that I was aiming for the end of 90 PT, which means I was taking care of whole economy, to last until that time, also, I was doing iron units, which also takes time. "Only 45 recruits". Well, There's no point in making recrutis earlier than at point of 18 minutes before PT ends, cause they will get hungry and go to Inn, which is a waste of food for citiziens. If I were aiming for the end of 75 PT, I would make it all differently (earlier weapons' production for sure). Well, we'll see :).

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 10 Nov 2014, 23:34
by SimCity
Simcity, I thought you knew better by now: there are very good players in the Remake above random level ;)
Discoupan fan is my brother. He is younger and smarter than me and does not have account on this forum, he asked my to download the game, as it is not possible to do that without the account.
I play very occasionally actually, I like learning PHP instead of playing KAM.

I would be fascinated to see you doing 175 bowman (weapons+recruits) up to 75 mins. Good luck, comrade!

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 11 Nov 2014, 00:25
by sado1
Discoupan fan is my brother.
Oldest lie of the Internet...

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2014, 12:19
by SimCity
I think this game is a lie. And your statement is not true too, Sado.

Re: Cursed Ravine Replays

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2014, 17:19
by Ben
"Simcity's brother is a lie" "KaM is a lie" blah blah blah. All I know and care about is that the cake is a lie.