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Yeah I agree that sounds best. To be honest I don't care about school/inn/storehouse placement that much, (as long as it's sensible enough) but I can understand that some people do. We are planning to add starting options eventually, although hopefully in a more flexible and interesting way than KaM did it.

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I always have two schools in multiplayer, and occasionally two inns/storehouses.
Watching things be built is just part of KaM, that's how it's meant to be. It gives you time to plan the rest of your village, admire the visuals, think about the tactics you will use, etc. I think it's a good way to start the game.
If we were going to reduce building times just because people don't like waiting, we might as well make building instant. Either way, it's not the same game. (although instant building could be added as a cheat)
And before you ask, yes we could add an optional button for it in the lobby, but if we added every optional feature people have suggested they would have filled 5 lobby screens by now. I don't want to have many options.

But if you have to wait for over 5 minutes (which is long for 1 hour pt), until you can actually start playing, that's too long (in my opinion).

Anyway, cheats would be fun to have back in the game, just to screw around sometimes.

I'd rather not make people start with a school and an inn on my maps. Some people (like myself) like to build them themselves. Sometimes I want 2 tiles distance between my school and my storehouse, sometimes 4 (so I can build a tower between them if I want to avoid militia rush).
I think the best solution would be to use different map settings like in original KaM. Instead of storehouse/troops/troops and buildings we could have storehouse/storehouse+school+inn/etc.

I'd rather not make people start with a school and an inn on my maps. Some people (like myself) like to build them themselves. Sometimes I want 2 tiles distance between my school and my storehouse, sometimes 4 (so I can build a tower between them if I want to avoid militia rush).
I think the best solution would be to use different map settings like in original KaM. Instead of storehouse/troops/troops and buildings we could have storehouse/storehouse+school+inn/etc.

Absolutely agree with that. Personally I think placement of inn and school are very important because huge amount of things will be delivered there. Also distance from storehouse depends on what strategy you are doing.

However, in principle, Options Are Bad The less options there are the better. If you put too many options, people will divide between combinations and it's really bad for the community. I personally think of options like:
a) Start with every building as it appears on the map (default)
b) start with storehouse only
c) Start with storehouse + school + inn
(checkbox) Start with units too/don't start with the units the map maker has put on the map for you (default: checked)
Which is almost exactly as it appeared in original KaM multiplayer.

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It's still playing while you're waiting for them to be built, don't you plan your town or something? Chat with the other players? It's part of the game. And why is waiting for the stonemason/woodcutter any different?
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Have back? We already support the storehouse cheat (+10 resources or victory) from KaM TSK/TPR and that's the only KaM cheat I know about. But we'll add more eventually.

Have back? We already support the storehouse cheat (+10 resources or victory) from KaM TSK/TPR and that's the only KaM cheat I know about. But we'll add more eventually.

Also, there is another cheat, the victory cheat (the same, but with the fish instead of the horse). Just saying.

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If you read Lewin's post : "+10 resources or victory", just saying.

As many people, I always build 2 schools and several inns/storehouses in a game.
Like TDL I dislike maps where you start with inn, school (and sometimes stonemasons woodcutters and sawmill), because it oftens doesn't fit the plan you'd like to do, and that's annoying. I also agree with Lewin on the fact that this waiting time can be well-used to plan/chat.

@Ben: In latest update, you can use F5-F6-F7-F8 to control the speed between x1-x2-x4-x8 (if I remember the values right), current speed is reported on the clock.

Have back? We already support the storehouse cheat (+10 resources or victory) from KaM TSK/TPR and that's the only KaM cheat I know about. But we'll add more eventually.