Knights and Merchants.net Forum

Hello kammers,

I've had some new ideas for another 8p map so here I present my latest creation:



Some unique characteristics for this map include:
- Fairly small locations (map is even smaller than GC), so it should be a challenge to carefully plan how to build your base.
- To add some variety to building the resources are scattered around your starting location so different buildorders can be used.
- Iron is easy to get but isn't fixed in one place (WitW style)
- Can be played top vs bottom or left vs right.

Here some more pictures:
Loc 1/2:


Loc 3/4:


Loc 5/6:


Loc 7/8:


Downloadlink: http://www.mediafire.com/?psz525t76xbxx9r

Let me know what you think,

To

Seems To want The Dark Lord`s place
Map looks really Cool there are enough wood. Some loc are harder then other coz far coal but they are balanced and that`s good.
I really like how look` grass.
Downloaded map but seems you forget put loc for players. Can`t test it yet.

Amazing work as always To!
Let me know when you've written the story so I can add it to the Remake. The map name has already made me curious about the story.

Oh no, a Thunder-style map from To... I'm going to mess up there even more than on TFF! Nice job, I'll surely test it to see if my predictions are right

I like the way it looks, very nice map indeed!

Hi!
It's a perfect To's style.
The first thing what i thought at first sight 'Little TFF'
You really used well the space. Smaller than GC and still enough space for building. I hope the fighting area at the centre wont be too little. I see it, massive 30-40 mins fighting will be there:) (it is going with little fighting space:))

Anyway i like it!
Nice Map!
Grat!
t

Yea he put quite some work into this, as usual. Haven't played it yet, but seems like a nice addition to the to maps.

That map looks very nice but it is not map for 8P for sure. There is no space for army and fights. It will be like one big army stuck - camp wars.
In my opinion map will be perfect for 4P or mby 6P but then it need some modifications.

Woah! That is one gorgeous map! I spent a long time looking at it, but I seriously can't find any major aesthetical flaws. The only two things I saw were
1) the coal. I noticed that you barely used the thinnest coal tile, which makes the transition look poorer. Your coal already looks very good on this map so I think that it is a shame that you didn't capitalize on making it "perfect."
2) This mountain:
I don't like the objects on top of the rock (although I'm guessing that the dead shrub was placed there to hide a "sharp tile."). Also, the very steep "ravines" in the mountain look pretty bad in KaM in my opinion. Finally, in the left side of the mountain (the smaller part below the water) you can see some elevated terrain that overlaps the back. I think that it would look better if you could see the back of the mountain, but I understand how you feel about water touching mountains

This is just me being super picky, but your maps deserve it! They can't receive any kind of feedback that isn't "super specific"

I really like being able to gather resources in different directions. Quite recently, I was working on a map with this same idea.

Thanks for the kind words people. It's really helpfull, especially from other mapmakers.
I did it on purpose, ignoring thinnest coal since Western Desert. I think it's really annoying to build coalmines on that shallow coal and it also takes more space. Besides that, I don't think it looks that bad without it.
I tested all locs singleplayer (with exception of 6 and 7) to see if it has enough buildingspace, I didn't see any problems sofar. Ofcourse there is no space for 15 farms but nobody builds that amount of farms nowdays when swords own the battlefield. Battle space is another story, I can't tell since it couldn't be tested in multiplayer yet. I think a diamand shaped centerfront of roughly 70 x 70 width should be enough space to have some decent battles. Besides that, the players in the top and bottom have their own entrances to guard so I like to test it first. BTW About large armies, I'm not sure if it's possible to have a large army on this map. Since iron is scattered around the map and starting food is simular to the harder maps out there. Also it's pretty hard to dig in with towers completely so camping is possible but should be harder than on other maps, atleast that's the way I designed it. But again, we should test this to find out.
Hehe, making stories up (which normally took me some hours at least) is no longer a concern for me since my favorite american fellow kam proplayer (and devoted storyteller, so I've been told) has kindly offered me his humble services. So my eyes are fixed on him to create this magnificent story.
Euhm yes, you are right, for some reason I can't pick any locs when I want to play this map in the latest beta. In the older version it's no problem however.

You need to put !SET_USER_PLAYER for all of the locations which are usable by humans. You could also open it up in the RC editor and set the player type to human (under global scripting) for all of the locations, then save it.

ok fixed the human player setting and it also has a magnificient story now: http://www.mediafire.com/?psz525t76xbxx9r

I added it to the Remake Let us know if you do any updates.