List of added, not added, staying and deleted maps
This topic is probably gonna be one of those that provoke the flamewars. I know exactly what's gonna happen after everyone interested will read the maps list. Lots of people will disagree. Lots of mapmakers will be, at the very best, sad, at the very worst, will want to find me in real life, then burn my house, then find my corpse, then burn it again, just to be sure. But please remember, while continuing to read what I typed below: we simply had to do that job, or no one else would. So please, everyone, remember: we want to be alive in at least next couple of months!
sado and TDL (and partially, To)
Having said that.
Here is the list, which is a result of some sleepless hours of me and The Dark Lord judging the maps that are in the Remake, or that were made since the latest release (5503). The hours weren't sleepless because we spent so much time on it, though - we probably just like doing that kind of stuff after midnight too much. But anyway. The list is available under the link below. But before you see it, a couple more words.
Frequently asked questions:
Q: WHY?
A: Well, we need to make that question more specific...
Q: OK. Why delete maps?
A: At the moment, there is around 100 economical maps in the Remake. Don't even ask me how many maps are there in general. (I don't want to install a fresh copy of the Remake right now to check it out xD) A new player, or let's face it... an old player does the same thing too! Anyway. A player, opens the list of maps. He scrolls it down. Then scrolls it up. Then he chooses Cursed Ravine. (Assuming he's not from Teamspeak.) Having 100 maps makes people not able to make a choice, especially when most of those maps look bad and their gameplay is outdated or bugged. That is one of the reasons we need to delete many maps from the Remake.
Q: Why do you want to delete/not add my map?
A: Because we HATE YOU.
OK. Maybe not really.. I mean, we might hate you anyway
, but the real reason is, the map didn't fulfill our criteria - which you can see a couple lines below.
Q: Why do you want to delete Kaderto/Lake Wololo/<insert a name of an old map here>? I played loads of great games on those maps... years ago...
A: We did too, man, we did too! The problem is, nobody plays those maps nowadays (just check the maps popularity list...), they look very bad amongst newest shiny maps, and they have some serious gameplay issues. We cannot let the map stay only because of the memories. And remember - the memories are not something anyone can take away from you
Q: Now that you want to delete my map, nobody will be able to play it!
A: Thanks to the new download feature (that's incoming in the next Remake version), EVERYONE will be able to download the map from you! So, it doesn't mean you will not be able to play your map. What's more: we plan to actively monitor which maps that are not in the Remake, are popular in the lobbies, and the most popular ones should be added into the game on next release!
Q: What are the criteria for adding a map/letting a map stay in the Remake?
A: These are the criteria. Note: not all of them need to be fulfilled at once, generally if a map fulfills all but one, it is fine.
1. The popularity of the map. While obviously there is no way to judge it for the new maps, it it very important for the old maps. If a map is already in the Remake, and it's popular enough in 5503, it's probably going to be included again. If people like a map, we should not delete it. If a map was around 400 games/60th place or above that, it was considered popular. The higher was the map on the list, the more we could forgive it (for example, worse looks etc.)
2. The looks of the map. The Remake needs a certain quality standard, and I cannot imagine a better person than The Dark Lord for judging the looks of those maps.
3. The gameplay. This one is hard for new maps too, unless we played that certain map and/or had feedback from people that played it. We made the decision to not eliminate campy maps only because they're campy, cause many people love them. However, some of the most extreme examples were deleted (Lake Wololo...)
4. The balance - both teams' chances need to be equal.
5. We allowed most of the dynamically scripted maps, even if some of them looked a bit worse.
OK, enough talking. Here's the list. Have fun killing us
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tJY ... sp=sharing
sado and TDL (and partially, To)
Having said that.
Here is the list, which is a result of some sleepless hours of me and The Dark Lord judging the maps that are in the Remake, or that were made since the latest release (5503). The hours weren't sleepless because we spent so much time on it, though - we probably just like doing that kind of stuff after midnight too much. But anyway. The list is available under the link below. But before you see it, a couple more words.
Frequently asked questions:
Q: WHY?
A: Well, we need to make that question more specific...
Q: OK. Why delete maps?
A: At the moment, there is around 100 economical maps in the Remake. Don't even ask me how many maps are there in general. (I don't want to install a fresh copy of the Remake right now to check it out xD) A new player, or let's face it... an old player does the same thing too! Anyway. A player, opens the list of maps. He scrolls it down. Then scrolls it up. Then he chooses Cursed Ravine. (Assuming he's not from Teamspeak.) Having 100 maps makes people not able to make a choice, especially when most of those maps look bad and their gameplay is outdated or bugged. That is one of the reasons we need to delete many maps from the Remake.
Q: Why do you want to delete/not add my map?
A: Because we HATE YOU.
OK. Maybe not really.. I mean, we might hate you anyway
, but the real reason is, the map didn't fulfill our criteria - which you can see a couple lines below.Q: Why do you want to delete Kaderto/Lake Wololo/<insert a name of an old map here>? I played loads of great games on those maps... years ago...
A: We did too, man, we did too! The problem is, nobody plays those maps nowadays (just check the maps popularity list...), they look very bad amongst newest shiny maps, and they have some serious gameplay issues. We cannot let the map stay only because of the memories. And remember - the memories are not something anyone can take away from you
Q: Now that you want to delete my map, nobody will be able to play it!
A: Thanks to the new download feature (that's incoming in the next Remake version), EVERYONE will be able to download the map from you! So, it doesn't mean you will not be able to play your map. What's more: we plan to actively monitor which maps that are not in the Remake, are popular in the lobbies, and the most popular ones should be added into the game on next release!
Q: What are the criteria for adding a map/letting a map stay in the Remake?
A: These are the criteria. Note: not all of them need to be fulfilled at once, generally if a map fulfills all but one, it is fine.
1. The popularity of the map. While obviously there is no way to judge it for the new maps, it it very important for the old maps. If a map is already in the Remake, and it's popular enough in 5503, it's probably going to be included again. If people like a map, we should not delete it. If a map was around 400 games/60th place or above that, it was considered popular. The higher was the map on the list, the more we could forgive it (for example, worse looks etc.)
2. The looks of the map. The Remake needs a certain quality standard, and I cannot imagine a better person than The Dark Lord for judging the looks of those maps.
3. The gameplay. This one is hard for new maps too, unless we played that certain map and/or had feedback from people that played it. We made the decision to not eliminate campy maps only because they're campy, cause many people love them. However, some of the most extreme examples were deleted (Lake Wololo...)
4. The balance - both teams' chances need to be equal.
5. We allowed most of the dynamically scripted maps, even if some of them looked a bit worse.
OK, enough talking. Here's the list. Have fun killing us
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tJY ... sp=sharing
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