Look, I literally played all your Fixed Campaign from first to last and the time I tried to break the game with the Market (trading the initial ridiculous amount of stones for useful things) you blocked it and I was not allowed to. I don't know if I am a noob with the Market but I find the prices too high to use if you have a running Village with everything, for example, to trade for Iron weapons or Horses, 4 iron bars for 1 horse, it's better to have the full chain. And anything for Iron is expensive too.
When a given resource is depleted, there is a reason to use, but at a ineficient rate. I think the time I used the market was to pick iron weapons just to complete a Knight group, but I did not fell that breaked anything, it was better to just make a Huge Amount of Leather troops.
From pratical experience, I say it don't break the game if you block resources you are not allowed to have in a given mission (like it already is).
Yes, but since I blocked fish, because they were not available in 1998 TSK, I think I'll let market blocked, too.
I agree with this,progressing difficult is really good, but... how this will work? TSK 8 is the most difficult mission followed by 14. We will make the other missions harder or simple let this two missions as living hell for itself?
I think the right order should be (without tactic missions):
TSK 1
TSK 2
TSK 4
TSK 5
TSK 7
TSK 9
TSK 11
TSK 12
TSK 18
TSK 15
TSK 16
TSK 8
TSK 14
TSK 20
You will not remove everything just because it was not there in 1998 right? Like Control Groups, Rally Point, Shield Bonus, Lack of Archer bug, etc... I think you should make a list of things to be removed and to be keep and the reason behind it, because "because they were not available in 1998 TSK" is not a good one, I don't care for the fish itself, I care about the reason you are using to remove or keep things. Basically, you will try to keep new mechanics, but will remove new buildings? (exception for Build order mechanics...)
And I think your order is really good (The last mission is supposed to be the harder right?) and you swaped 8 and 14 for the 'progressing difficult'? Also, I never agreed how TSK 18 is so easy, the briefing say how hard it is to assault the fortress and how many generals failed, but it is in fact a easy mission
I think the design of the mission that make it easy.
As Vatrix said, it is not in his Fixes.
You said that the market is already "in the game". "The game" is not equal to Vatrix's fixes at the moment. When you mentioned that to Ben, I'm sure he was as confused as I was about what you were talking about.
Well, in fact I thought the Remake Base Campaign was just untouched like TPR, and the only thing Vatrix changed was the locked wares. Never passed in my mind that everything of Remake was there with the exeption of the Market.
Honest question, did anyone here ever runned out of resources in Knights and Merchants Campaign? Other than Iron, of course.
Yes. When I first started playing the original game's TSK campaign, I ran out of gold because I procrastinated and thus let the enemy built up a large army. I didn't know how to build good food producing towns to afford to feed a very large army at once (the serfs used to not be so efficient as they are in the remake), and thus I would consume a lot of gold. In addition, in TSK 08 and TSK 11, I used to allow the AI to continuously disallow me to mine nearby coal and iron deposits. (This perhaps goes for many more missions.)
If you have the market at your disposal, then you can build a village with its center of mass in such a way that the AI comes and attacks you at a good location for you to intercept.
Therefore, one can run out of resources by being prevented from getting them OR from exhausting them. But, as I've said, you can cleverly use the market to conveniently solve both of these problems.
Well, in fact gold is the only important resource someone can run out in KnM, but if you really runned out of resources, this is a serious problem then, because the amount of resources avaliable is proportional to the old balance of TSK, now we will rebalance everything, so the amount of resource will not be the same and noobs like your old self will lose even harder (with the market this is never a problem). I never thought it was possible to run out of gold because even in my noob days where I had to make a large amount of troops and attack over and over I had plenty of gold left (so I think the KnM designer used the 'worst case scenario' for the amount of gold) and I always let the enemy build a large army (and they have a max amount of units anyway). Just for players that are really really bad. (but this players will lose to the improved attack force)
Other resources are ok to run out. They are not vital. I don't get this "build a village with a center of mass in such a way..." The AI will always attack your closest building, you can already do this to fight in a good location if you want to abuse things this far.
And yes, you solve this exhausting problem with the market, but I saw it as a good thing! Because without the inefficient market as a 'very late game solution for my lack of skill' we will have to rebalance things so a very bad person can win like TSK... (because this very bad person in a now harder mission, will have to rely on the market to make his army late game) that's why I asked if someone was ever losed because of resources.
But look, I'm just showing my point of view, I will agree with everything decided here.
I don't know if I am a noob with the Market but I find the prices too high to use if you have a running Village with everything, for example, to trade for Iron weapons or Horses, 4 iron bars for 1 horse, it's better to have the full chain. And anything for Iron is expensive too.
The market is made expensive on purpose to not upset the balance of the game. However, in my one experience with using the market in "Two Sides", I find that the following trades are "worth it".
Trade wine barrels or wood for gold.
Trade pigs or skins for iron weapons.
Trade wine barrels for stones.
Speaking of trading for gold and stones,
I think the time I used the market was to pick iron weapons just to complete a Knight group, but I did not fell that breaked anything, it was better to just make a Huge Amount of Leather troops.
You have to remember the TSK and TPR campaigns are meant to be for people of all skill levels (well, maybe not people at the "skilled" level and above), and therefore it is very easy for a beginner (or anyone who isn't thinking straight) to forget to build a metallurgist or stone mason building. Making this LOSING mistake can be "made up for" by using the market to do a few trades for gold and stone, respectively.
And I agree with the expensive rate, the Market must be a secondary choice, not the primary. But look, this 'worth' trades are when you can't get stone, or iron weapons or gold, the primary way should always be more efficient. (and the numbers can always be changed)
And this way of "LOSING" is a very bad way to lose... I don't think someone is happy to lose because he forget to build a metallurgist and must start ALL OVER AGAIN in a game like KnM that is a very time consuming game, he must be punished (make ineficient trades in the market for example) not literally lose. In fact, losing this way is not even because of anything in the mission, the player just losed to the basic mechanics of the game. (and the game not even alert the players about this). A really noob players losing to a basic mechanic is not a fundamental part of the game.
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@Vatrix
Here the TSK 6 that I played.
https://mega.co.nz/#!h9khGB4R!sFALYHCgq ... TTejFbhjHs
I tried to be very lazy and just faced the enemy, but victory still comes. What you want to test?
