Do You Like the Marketplace?

[Ben]

I saw that you could trade an iron bar for 3 tree-trunks, but I would have an extremely hard time doing so. Maybe I'll try it sometime...

[Bo_]

It's actualy 2.
TDL: It makes people better, but weak players won't be able to let the marktplace make them better, see my point?

[The Dark Lord]

No.
It improves their gameplay as well, so they improve too.

[Bo_]

A good player will make way more profit out of the market than a weak player.
A market does nothing on his own, unlike a farm who will automaticly produce corn.
Understood?

[The Dark Lord]

Yes of course, but that does not mean a weak player won't improve at all, which is what you said.

[Bo_]

mmmh depends on what you understood with weak.
It should have been total noob instead of weak.

[The Dark Lord]

Yes, but it doesn't take much intelligence to trade for logs if you run out of timber...

[dicsoupcan]

it also does not take much inteligence to make an extra woodcutter for more timber;)

[The Dark Lord]

That's right. But that has nothing to do with market efficiency. Trading is a much faster solution, too. The difference is that trading for logs is only a temporary solution, because you are likely to run out of timber again if you do not build additional woodcutters.

[dicsoupcan]

the market is a temporary solution for everything if you keep using resources for it you will run into problems

[Ben]

I'm really starting to not like this thing...

Umm, is there any chance of the marketplace's role changing? lol

[Bo_]

That's why the market isn't that easy to use...
It's easy to say hey I'll just trade some coal for some logs,
but that means that your gold and iron production will suffer from this.
When you're out of timber, it will still take time until the coal becomes a trunk, the trunk timber and the timber the building.
It's not just 1 click and hup free wood.

[sado1]

But should the marketplace abuse actually be a way faster method of producing wood? Especially when most of the games are short and/or quite a few maps got too much coal, so I don't care about resources depleting?

[Ben]

That's why the market isn't that easy to use...
It's easy to say hey I'll just trade some coal for some logs,
but that means that your gold and iron production will suffer from this.
When you're out of timber, it will still take time until the coal becomes a trunk, the trunk timber and the timber the building.
It's not just 1 click and hup free wood.

This comment really doesn't make sense. It doesn't address the issue: getting tree-trunks just isn't the same anymore.

[Bo_]

Whatever but like people said, it's a temporary solution.
Should it be faster than a woodcutter?
Of course, why would you trade for trunks if it's not faster?
Then it would mean trading your dear limited coal to have less wood than when you just make woodcutters.
I don't agree on most games being pretty short, usualy I have market wood for 15-20 min and woodcutters wood 1h+,
depending on how long the game lasts. If you're talking about maps like The cracked land or river of gold where you have way too much coal then yes,
but then it's because the mapmaker wanted it to be like this.
It's the same for all maps, it's up to the mapmaker to choose how much the market will be needed, like on To maps I don't even need a market on most locs.