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Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 27 May 2012, 23:48
by dicsoupcan
We all know about this 'bug' etcetera etcetera, but I want to emphasize once more that this is quite frustrating. Surely you can say that I shouldn't build so close to the water, but if you don't know the map it is possible that you don't see the water before you're building there. And it is impossible to guess how far the water reaches.
i had the exact same thing xD
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 28 May 2012, 03:18
by Lewin
LOL yeah that is very annoying. It did happen in KaM too as far as I know. It's been on the to do list for a while but it's not easy to solve without a huge performance impacts. We'll probably need to use a floodfill around the house to generate a list of allowed tiles as David(?) suggested. That will already be slower than our current method but should be manageable.
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 28 May 2012, 07:52
by kocsis1david
There's another path finding algorithm which would allow to select destination after we know the distance:
The previous algorithm also meant extra memory requirements, but I think you don't need to store the distances for every house with this if you implement it optimally. The route can be easily made out by going from the destination to a closer tile. (doesn't work from the start)
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 05 Jun 2012, 18:40
by pawel95
Hey, i think after a long time now i have found one of the last trading "bug´s"
If you want to trade from coal to bread, you need 2 coal--->1bread
But if you want to trade from coal to sausages, you need 1 coal--->1sausages.
So I think this course should be sevised, because i think sausages are "better" than bread in KaM.
pawel95
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2012, 04:19
by Lewin
@kocsis1david: Yes some kind of pathfinding like that is probably the best solution, although it will be much slower than a simple scan of all tiles within a radius which we use currently. Thanks for your help.
@pawel95: You're right it doesn't make much sense. Our calculations are based on the number of processing steps, the number of resources produced and the cost of resources required. From that sausages ended up cheaper. I've added it to the proposals list.
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2012, 05:05
by Krom
@pawel95: I suspect that with mass production sausages are cheaper than bread (3 per 1 corn, and extra 1 pigskin). The only disadvantage that they take longer to start producing. I think we will tweak their cost, yes.
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2012, 05:57
by The Dark Lord
Another thing: in economy games, I often find myself counting on 'your troops are under attack!' messages because obviously, sometimes you have to manage your vilage or make recruits and you just can't focus on fighting 100%. Though it seems that like 9 out of 10 times I don't get warned and end up losing e.g. 80% of my lance carriers...
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2012, 06:56
by Lewin
Another thing: in economy games, I often find myself counting on 'your troops are under attack!' messages because obviously, sometimes you have to manage your vilage or make recruits and you just can't focus on fighting 100%. Though it seems that like 9 out of 10 times I don't get warned and end up losing e.g. 80% of my lance carriers...
The warning messages will only play once every 20 seconds, and only if the event is happening further than 30 tiles away from your screen center. Perhaps 30 is too far... what do you think?
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2012, 09:35
by Krom
30 tiles at normal zoom is 1200px, which even at 1920x1080 resolution is at least half a screen away from visible area. At 1024x720 it's even farther. I suggest distance is half screen minimum size at selected resolution (540/40 and 360/40 in given examples).
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2012, 10:08
by Lewin
Sounds fine to me
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2012, 11:31
by pawel95
30 tiles at normal zoom is 1200px, which even at 1920x1080 resolution is at least half a screen away from visible area. At 1024x720 it's even farther. I suggest distance is half screen minimum size at selected resolution (540/40 and 360/40 in given examples).
Yeah, I think like Lewin, that this is OK. However like you are really not prepared and build your wine fields
that is a little bit pity, that you havent move your screen at least 2 cm
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 24 Jun 2012, 20:11
by Beerzoeper
This is not really a bug, but it's funny to post: This builder trapped himself.. He suffered a very lonesome hungerdeath after 30 mins:P
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 25 Jun 2012, 02:11
by Lewin
This is not really a bug, but it's funny to post: This builder trapped himself.. He suffered a very lonesome hungerdeath after 30 mins:P
Haha I remember when the game would crash or freeze up if that happened
I wouldn't say it's a bug, it's just part of the game.
Re: Official KaM Remake Bugs topic
PostPosted: 25 Jun 2012, 06:43
by kocsis1david
I had the same thing with the stonecutter
Re: Official KaM Remake r2736 Bugs topic
PostPosted: 26 Jun 2012, 14:05
by Private.NL
Hey, i think after a long time now i have found one of the last trading "bug´s"
If you want to trade from coal to bread, you need 2 coal--->1bread
But if you want to trade from coal to sausages, you need 1 coal--->1sausages.
So I think this course should be sevised, because i think sausages are "better" than bread in KaM.
pawel95
Same with tree trunk and wooden planks. They have the same exchange. So if i make planks out of my trees i get more from that tree. Seems quite strange.
