When did you descover a mission editor?

[Ben]

AHEM!

I have played knights and merchants since I was 5. I am now fifteen. Ever since I was a little guy I loved making my own missions in other games. I always told my brothers about how my maps would look like if I could make missions and what color I would be the enemys color how many soldiers they had, your base size..EVERYTHING! I wanted to make my own KaM missions so bad. When I was 12 I was browsing the web for KaM for no reason. I was about to go to bed when my brother pointed out a search result that said "KaM The Pesents Rebelion." I told that it was another name someone game TSK, but I was wrong. He forced my to click it and BOOM! A sequal to KaM was out there for years (4?) and I had no idea! I bought it online the next day. I remember tearing the cold pakage open after I got the mail that cold fall morning. The first thing I noticed when I started it was the buitiful music. I had Hot Games version of KaM for 5 some years after my original one broke. I was so glad to have the music back. I noticed new songs and old ones were missiong . Anyway I am rambeling. I was really upset to see there was no mission editor....no I was angry! But then a year latter when I was 13, after 8 years of wanted to make my own mission...It happened. I was once again brosing the web for no reason (I should do this more often, find some cool things, huh?) and I found Lewins mission website. It was a link to the New lands campaign and I didn't know there were other missions. I was so happy to see that people were making their own missions I..I don't know. Very happy I was. Then I downloaded it. nothing. I didn't know what to do. So after a month I emialed the guy who ran the site (I NEVER trusted anyone online back then, I was doing something clearly against my normal self) and he (Lewin) helped me install the New Lands. After I got past the 2nd mission I found out about other missions on his site. I thought Lewin made the New Lands. Nope it was someone else called "The Dark Lord" And other missions! Many people could make KaM missions. Perhaps someone would let me download an editor? After a while I got all the things I needed and shortly afterword made my own mission. It wasn't great, I liked it (It got deleted) but I was just so happy that I could make my own missions! Not only do I like making them, I like letting others play them! My brothers were not inot KaM at the time so I posted "The great Annaxation" On Lewins site. It is still there now...that my story. Thanks for reading. My question is:



How long did you have KaM before you found out there was an editor?
It took me 8 years! LONG time!

[merchant_992]

It took me very long too. But i think I discovered it somewhere in 2004/2005. Qage's editor. It was only possible to edit the terrain back then, so i never used it. The first real possibility to edit whole missions came on 29 December 2006, king harold was the first to release a mission decoder ans since then it is possible to edit missions. It took still some time then until we understood what all commands were, but we could do something and eventually we could do (almost) everything. Since then I probably got every missioneditor that has been released, only missed a few of Krom's versions 8 years is really a long time, but when you are 5 years old one just doesn't surfs the internet.

[Juba]

Ben, you actually told your whole "KaM life", not just finding the mission editor. But that's just better, doesn't it? So here goes mine:

Well, I played KaM TSK first time at 2000, when I was 7 years old. I went to the local library and then I saw it at the CD-section*. The package looked cool and I thought it was something like the Age of Empires do I decided to lend it. Well, I played it and I remeber I didn't pass even the first stage.

Something like 2-4 years passed, don't have any clue when but some day I lent it again. This time I managed to pass three missions until I got stuck.

Time passes - it's year 2008, autumn. (I had bought the first version of my computer at 2007 november.) At this point, I had learned few things about using (/basic use of a) computer and started to learn more things (until I got into this point where I'm now but in bigger scale I think I haven't learned so much). Anyway, I learned to portforward my router, so now I was able to use P2P for the first time in my life. Since I've had a pc of my own I've tried to travel back in time - searching old games and tried to play them. So I used P2P for this purpose and I downloaded e.g. The Kellog's game which came with a cereal package and this kind of oldschool games *feels nostalgic*.

I remember my KaM experiences and donwloaded the dutch TPR cd-image. It worked and some other day I went to the library to check if the TSK would still be there. It was, but some #@?% retard had scracthed the CD and made it dirty. It didn't worked until I carefully cleaned it with water and a piece of cloth. It worked but two music tracks between 8-12 are damaged so you have to change the track after it starts to lag before the game freezes.

And then at middle of February (2009) I was browsing the web just like you and I incidentally found this site and began a part of community.
Edit: It was end of the January, just looked my registration day (I didn't registered immediatly to forums).

So it took me 9 years - you were faster than me.


*It's the same TSK that I've told here before in another topic here; they still won't sell it to me although nobody has lend it since 2002 (except me) so I guess I continue lending it when I want to play it. But they have made a small agree with me - they'll sell it to me at 2015 (if they don't sell it earlier) or whatever that year was when Microsoft stops offering updates to Windows Xp 'cause the game won't run smoothly on Vista.

[The Dark Lord]

Many years ago, a friend of mine showed me a cool game: Knights and Merchants. Every time I was at his place we played it, and I would have loved to get it myself, but I just couldn't get my hands on it. A couple of years later my brother and me found out about TPR and we bought it. We used to play it a lot, but the campaign was rather disappointing. TPR disappeared somewhere in a dark corner of my (or my brother's) room.
But some years later I would remember KaM. I searched for the cd, found it and installed it again. But something was missing. I missed it even when I just bought TPR: some songs from TSK. I just kept searching for it through the internet, untill I came on the Dutch website/forum. I downloaded Qage's editor somewhere, made like two maps with it, and forgot completely about those songs. Then I noticed there was a better editor: Krom's. That was the day I registered at the Dutch forum. I started working on The New Lands, although, I think, it was still impossible to create scripts. Back then I just hoped it would be possible some time, and that turned out to be pretty soon. Creating missions back then was not easy as you had to do write every line manually (I remember the green village in mission 3 took ages), but at least it was possible!

Now, I don't the exact dates, but I guess I discovered KaM like 9 or 10 years ago, and I registered at the Dutch forum like 2 years ago, so that would be 7 or 8 years of waiting.

[Ben]

Wow, I din't know that mission editors only appeared 3 years ago! I am so thankfull for all who ahve done anything for knights and merchants to make this all possible!

Juba said:

I guess I continue lending it when I want to play it. But they have made a small agree with me - they'll sell it to me at 2015

2015 is still quite some time away. Have you looked online for it? and that is a worldwide website so you should be able to get it in Finland...if someone sells accross borders. (Assuming you won't find any sellers in finland) I have no idea how much you are willing to spend or how much it will cost. However, you should try looking for TPR at a library. TPR only need the CD for installing. After you install it you don't need the CD anymore (unless it gets deleted). So you wouldn't need to buy it then!

[Juba]

2015 is still quite some time away. Have you looked online for it? and that is a worldwide website so you should be able to get it in Finland...if someone sells accross borders. (Assuming you won't find any sellers in finland) I have no idea how much you are willing to spend or how much it will cost. However, you should try looking for TPR at a library. TPR only need the CD for installing. After you install it you don't need the CD anymore (unless it gets deleted). So you wouldn't need to buy it then!

Krhm, did you read my post clearly? :roll:

So I used P2P for this purpose and I downloaded e.g. The Kellog's game which came with a cereal package and this kind of oldschool games *feels nostalgic*.

I remembered my KaM experiences and donwloaded the dutch TPR cd-image. It worked and...

But yea, I still would like to get a legal version of it. Though I tried to buy the Topware donwload-version but that didn't work and I lost my money (and that was in this another topic...) And of course I've looked online-stores and everything I can...

I can't order anything abroad before I'm 18 (not sure but I guess I need a credit card, at least I haven't heard that anyone had ordered something abroad with a bank card).

[Ben]

Well I was pretty sure I wasn't understanding you, but I thought I'd give it a try...better make sure I know what you mean first though from now on.

[CuDi]

I ahve a similar story to bens cept i started when i was six and im 16 no, didnt find out about the editors till two years ago.